This features carrier cradle extensions to ensure that the carrier is always supported by the buffer tube. (collapsed), 38 in. ["to_ping"]=> ["post_password"]=> ["filter"]=> ["post_parent"]=> string(19) "2022-05-09 16:18:38" string(1) "0" string(0) "" } Online shopping from a great selection of discounted 308 Semi-Auto Rifles by POF at Sportsman's Outdoor Superstore. string(17) "Renegade Plus SBR" I love seeing the platforms continue to evolve. What makes it stand out though is simply its length. ["post_modified_gmt"]=> string(0) "" This is dramatically smaller and lighter than an AR-10 bolt carrier. Considering the no free lunch concept, I question how shootable a 6lb 308 gas gun is but for a field rifle, they look awesome. TESTobject(WP_Post)#7921 (24) { Semi should be even less. ["post_type"]=> string(0) "" ["post_author"]=> string(0) "" POF-USA recommends only using Magpul and Lancer magazines with the Rogue. Ive been having my Revolution 308 for years. One distinctive feature is the stainless steel gas carrier key is dovetailed into the carrier for added strength. I was able to pick one up from the first release. string(0) "" string(0) "" string(19) "2022-12-28 21:46:43" string(6) "closed" The Rogues excellent flat-blade trigger is a single-stage, drop-in unit contained within a hardcoat anodized-aluminum housing. ["guid"]=> The company may see its feathery weight as a particular advantage to hunters, but we think it makes the platform all the more formidable as a defensive arm as well. ["post_type"]=> Anyone own or shot the POF Rogue in 308, especially the pistol version in 12.5" barrel? [ARCHIVED THREAD] - POF Rogue: sub-6lbs 308, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMOxHPQ4090, https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/421435/258D4677-3C15-4217-BFAA-87B7FEEC9812_png-1242209.JPG, https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/319906/pof308_jpg-1242576.JPG, https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/435611/pof_rogue_JPG-1242593.JPG, https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/e9be31a7ec8c8b8fe9c976745bd39c8f/400.jpeg, https://pof-usa.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Rogue.png. string(1) "0" My question though, when I first heard of the Revolution a few years back was, Is it really an AR-15? So, I asked Frank DeSomma about it. Surrounding the barrel is POF-USAs lightweight Renegade M-LOK handguard. You simply cannot go wrong with any of these rifles." SIG Sauer 716i TREAD Specs Caliber: .308 Win. Anyone tried one of these? (extended) Weight: 6 lbs., 13 oz. I also tried a DPM Systems Technologies buffer. ["to_ping"]=> ["to_ping"]=> This lightweight hunting rifle can go with you without needless "lightening" cuts, all while delivering a rifle at a price point affordable to serious shooters. ["comment_status"]=> When a cartridge is fired they allow a small amount of gas pressure to flow backward and push on the shoulder of the spent casing. ["post_status"]=> string(19) "2022-12-28 14:28:24" string(0) "" I would sit back and wait to see how it holds up.alot of testing has taken place for military application and there must be some good reasons it was decided to use a beefier frame for bigger bullets and more powder.. Gear & Gadgets on the Texas Fishing and Outdoors Show, Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.3. The bolt and barrel extension are the same overall size of the M16 bolt and barrel extension, but geometry modified to accept the 7.62x51mm NATO cartridge. I'm 56 and I've owned 100s of guns through my life, however I've never owned an AR. If this is actually under 6#, I might get one to replace my 16in Grendel for hunting Bou and Blk bear. string(6) "closed" I grabbed one as well but haven't shot it yet. string(7) "publish" Please Wait. string(19) "2022-05-09 16:12:05" It will do MOA with match ammo. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways. I will need to figure out the gas system once I have the can. Ive never had a single issue. POF-USAs patented E2 dual-extraction technology consists of four small channels cut into the walls of the chamber allowing a small amount of gas pressure to push against the neck of the spent case. ["post_date_gmt"]=> This product has an average rating of 5 stars out of 5 stars from 1 ratings. Its very fun to shoot, and yet could fill multiple roles. Do You Need a 9mm? The Rouges chamber features POF-USAs E dual extraction system. string(6) "closed" The firearm's numerous. The Rogue carries very well due to both its short overall length and light weight. } So POF has worked some Voodoo to cram everything you see into a standard length lower receiver. string(19) "2022-05-09 08:31:51" string(0) "" Springfield Armory Hellcat Pro CCW Pistol Review. The Rogue reduces both weight and cost compared to the original Revolution. string(52) "https://pof-usa.com/?post_type=firearm&p=128146" string(0) "" I really want a rogue, I think its an awesome concept and would love to get one, espeacially at the price compared to other comparable offerings with uber exotic materials for a lot more $$$. ["post_author"]=> string(0) "" consists of two pieces. ["post_date"]=> string(13) "Tombstone 9MM" ["comment_status"]=> string(0) "" POF calls them "intermediate size" rifles, which is a fair label. So sheer accuracy was not my main goal. string(52) "https://pof-usa.com/?post_type=firearm&p=128147" According to POF, the Rogue twist rate is designed for higher weight bullets so that may . ["to_ping"]=> new. ["post_status"]=> Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. ["post_name"]=> I was at my favorite LGS and he had the Rogue Rifle and I got it. Even so, I was impressed by just how light and handy the Rogue is straight out of the box. Very light recoil, and so far, flawless function. Its numerous innovations and well-executed. This is NOT an AR-10. POF-USA is proud to announce the Rogue, an ultra-light carbine weighing in at under 6 pounds. string(17) "Revolution PD SBR" So, why not have your cake and eat it too? All Rights Reserved. What are your thoughts on the revolution compared to the i have a rogue pistol shoots great, 700 plus rounds, mostly suppressed, no issues. The new POF-USA Renegade + rifle takes the company's standard direct gas impingement AR to the next level. Perfect for concealed and everyday carry, the Springfield Armory Hellcat Pro is feature-packed and built for rough use. The Rogue comes either as a full size carbine utilizing a 16.5" barrel, or in pistol form with a 12.5" barrel. ["post_type"]=> Got rid of the rogue and bought a revolution 16, zero issues. I like the design of the 716 more than the rogue. I'd like to have one. string(6) "closed" This is not the case with the Revolution. However, POF-USA does offer their Dictator adjustable gas block as an option on the Rogue. A quick clean and I was back up and running. POF P-308 14'5" barrel. No issues, one of the softest shooting .308s I've tried. Take into account the radiation properties of aluminum compared to traditional steel and you have 17 times more heat dissipation than a standard AR. Im giving the Rogue a spin for the field gun slot. Weight reduction was a primary design goal of the 16.5"-barreled Rogue from the start, yet without needing to rely on the use of exotic materials or lightening cuts to the receivers in order to trim the ounces. I have wanted to get my hands on a Rogue since this model was introduced. new. While the Revolution features an adjustable gas block, the Rogue has a traditional low-profile design that is not adjustable. string(0) "" I'm sure there are some on the Rogue. string(8) "Prescott" string(0) "" ["menu_order"]=> phoenix-9mmobject(WP_Post)#11362 (24) { I got a chance to shoot it a few weeks ago and it is super nice. ["post_date_gmt"]=> Had a 12.7 revolution, zero issues. Or, you can just set it and forget it. POF-USA includes their patented roller cam pin to reduce friction. This design has worked well for me in various 5.56mm rifles and is one I really like. Examining the Rogue I noted the fit and finish to be excellent. int(122231) According to POF, the Rogue twist rate is designed for higher weight bullets so that may be a consideration for you. string(0) "" ARMSCORs RIA 5.0 ST semi-automatic 9 mm Luger pistol represents the companys first handgun to be designed and manufactured here in the United States. string(19) "2022-12-28 22:19:20" Its a very nice-looking piece that not only invokes pride of ownership but will impress your friends and anyone who handles it. Big thumbs up. However, POF in classes seem to be the first high end AR to choke. This free upgrade will be installed in all Rogue models, including the 12.5" barrel pistol and 16.5" barrel carbine. Build it exactly how you want it. I have a couple of POF's, including the Revolution carbine, and they've been excellent. ["comment_status"]=> When a review rifle recently arrived for Firearms News I found it to be a distinctive-looking piece with its lightened receivers, big .308 mag well and unique-looking muzzle device. One of my son's friends has one. string(19) "2022-12-28 22:30:32" I'll be shooting it with a can. So if there's no Dictator gas block, what I imagine happened was: POF's gen 4 ambi bolt release and bolt hold open are what made me want a revolution. string(19) "2022-05-09 16:01:02" Our enhanced backbone receiver also move the uppers natural stress point forward. So, I experimented with different buffers. ["post_modified_gmt"]=> ["guid"]=> And the DI Revolution was already super lightweight. I had to send it back to POF for a new barrel because the accuracy was horrible. string(6) "closed" Its size and weight put it into a league of its own. awaiting my cgs hyperion then determining if a gas block is needed for my rogueif so I'm trying a SLR first since it's much lighter than the pof brand. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. I had a Rev in 308 pistol configuration. int(114229) I'm running the OSS HD-7.62Ti and couldn't be happier as it functions the same with the can on or off (so it may work really well with the Rogue and it's also POF's preferred suppressor). string(19) "2023-01-09 08:27:30" ["comment_status"]=> ["post_mime_type"]=> string(0) "" (1) Patriot Ordnance Factory Minuteman Direct Impingement 16.5" Black 223 Remington/5.56 NATO AR15 Semi $ Owing to POFs vision of the rifle as a sporting arm, the Rogue employs a faster 1:8" twist rate than the 1:10" twist of the Revolution models that came before it, for use with heavier hunting bullets, and during our testing the weightier two loads did, indeed, outperform the lighter one by a small margin. 7.62x51mm NATO too Cold War era for you? string(0) "" ["post_title"]=> Got a 16" Revolution this Feb, and it has been reliable out of the box. .more .more We reimagined. The Rogues Key-Lock bolt carrier group differs from most BCGs in that it has a roller cam pin that reduces friction and stress on the part and a dovetailed gas key. Here is a rifle you could use for hunting, personal protection and recreational shooting. TIA! ["post_status"]=> Project Rogue was an exercise to turn the Revolution platform into the lightest .308 semi auto rifle on the market, and to do it without needless lightening cuts. string(13) "wonder-pistol" ["post_mime_type"]=> string(7) "firearm" Had the rogue, zero issues. Three quick hits and I switched to the LaRue at 500 yards. string(19) "2022-12-28 22:19:18" Australian Outbacks 150-grain Swift Scirocco II BTS load also averaged 2.3 inches and Winchesters 120-grain PDX1 Defender came in at 2.5 inches. ["post_title"]=> ["post_excerpt"]=> You also get an anti-tilt buffer tube featuring a "carrier cradle", a Renegade forend rail tube/tactical . I wouldnt mind selling a couple of DPMS LR308s and get one POF. string(1) "0" string(19) "2022-08-03 09:29:50" string(0) "" ["post_date_gmt"]=> Not sure how it will feel to shoot at less than 6 lbs. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Patriot Ordnance Factory, Inc. Sign up for our newsletter and receive exciting updates like new firearms being released! Been shooting flawlessly. I have the 16 version. Nosler ballistic tips. I thought the accuracy was excellent after a little load work given what the rifle is, it's work to shoot a 6lb semi-auto .308 for groups. It may not display this or other websites correctly. You get a number of improvements with the Revolution and quality control seems to be far better. One new winner* is announced every week! ["ping_status"]=> Accuracy through lightweight rifles can often sufferboth due to their thinner barrels heating up much more quickly and due to the added difficulty of shooting them wellyet the Rogue performed. string(7) "firearm" ["post_type"]=> Most of the shots are rapid fire and immediate mag changes. I purchased one last week and have run about 100 rounds through it. string(3) "raw" POF WONDER 5.56 WINTER WHITE TITANIUM DI 16.5 $ Remove from Compare Add to Compare. The anti-tilt buffer tube also features three drain holes. It snaps to the shoulder and indexes quickly from target to target. string(0) "" Our mil-spec aluminumanti-tilt buffer tubefeatures carrier cradle extensions to ensure that the carrier is always supported by the buffer tube even when the bolt carrier is fully forward. ["post_date"]=> ["post_excerpt"]=> This is a solid option for most shooters. The Rogue features a forged receiver set, stainless steel barrel, KeyLock DI BCG, ambidextrous selector, multiple QD sling attachment points, and Renegade rail & oversized heatsink barrel nut, all topped off with our Micro B muzzle brake. string(19) "2021-01-04 16:42:44" ["post_title"]=> ["pinged"]=> I have both the Rouge and thr Revolution. find a retailer Download Spec Sheet Download Owners' Manual available variants 2097 01662 2231 01740 2231 01941 ["ID"]=> string(0) "" string(0) "" string(0) "" tombstone-9mmobject(WP_Post)#7938 (24) { Once I got a feel for it, I found shot-to-shot recovery to be fairly quick considering its a 5.9-pound .308 Winchester. ["ID"]=> ["ping_status"]=> The patented oversized heat sinkbarrel nutis one of the most significant innovations. There are a lot of good videos on youtube about the Revolution. Its very cool. The result is a 7 lb pound 6.5 Creedmoor rifle . Its got a Pulsar thermal and has been suppressed 100% of the time. The result appears to be an excellent general purpose or do-it-all rifle candidate. Texas Gulf Coast/Kansas. While our test sample did turn out to weigh a bit more than the sub-6-lb. This single-stage, non-adjustable,drop-in triggerboasts a solid 4.5-pound pull weight and is pre-assembled in Hardcoat Anodized aluminum housing (complete with rubber urethane feet) for immediate competition, hunting, and tactical applications right out of the box. Cartridges like the .224 Valkyrie, 6mm ARC, 6.5mm Grendel, 6.8x43mm Rem SPC, 300 AAC Blackout and 350 Legend add more punch to the AR-15. int(0) Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. Keep in mind you may need to shoot lighter Ammo in the shorter barrel for maximum terminal performance. I have both the POF Revolution .308 pistol and carbine I run suppressed for night hunting. string(19) "2021-01-04 08:42:44" Aero Precision M5E1 AR-10 Complete Rifle. After finishing up at the bench I loaded up some 25- and 20-round Magpul magazines and ran some drills at 25, 50, 75 and 100 yards. string(52) "https://pof-usa.com/?post_type=firearm&p=122231" Having built/upgraded 10 AR systems Ive learned the hard way. I had one of the first ones, I put a dictator on it before I even shot it - the only problem I had is with DAG ammo. I had a ton of photos from that event. The carbine ships with one 20-round Magpul magazine, and no sighting options are included with the gun. I know the one thing many of you are wondering is, How bad does a 5.9-pound .308 Win AR-15 kick?. There are multiple sling mounting points, including a QD mount at the rear of the receiver. string(4) "3120" Go. Do you have any other suggestions for for a rifle? The smaller and lighter option for years now has simply been an AR-15 chambered for 5.56mm or one of the many other cartridges developed specifically for this platform. string(0) "" It certainly held its own if compared to your average FAL, G3, CETME, M14, BM59, M1A and the like. string(3) "raw" string(19) "2022-12-28 21:47:22" I'm not sure if they sell it individually. It features a nickel-plated bolt & extractor, and chrome plated firing pin. Of the two, the Sig but I'd look around a little more. Just saw this. <p>The Rogue features POF's E2 dual-extraction technology consists of four small channels cut into the walls of the chamber allowing a small amount of gas pressure to push against the neck of the spent case. The Rogue simply handles, shoulders and carries like a lightweight 5.56mm gunbut it punches like a .308 Win. I dont want to troubleshoot something I just spent $1500 buying. string(7) "firearm" I'd personally spend a bit more on the Revolution DI over the Rogue, no experience with the Sig but I've never been a fan and it's about two pounds heavier and physically larger overall. ["post_mime_type"]=> string(6) "closed" Patriot Ordnance Factory 01662 Rogue Direct Impingement 308 Win,7.62x51mm NATO 16.50' 20+1 Black Anodized 6 Position MFT Stock. The E feature is designed to aid extraction and improve reliability. ["post_parent"]=> ["pinged"]=> Good looking choices & good post @Talyn, it's always nice to see new offerings come to market. #10. The rifles 416R stainless-steel barrel is threaded 5/8x24 TPI and capped with POFs five-prong Micro B muzzle brake. string(4) "3120" This would be a good piece to consider if you are looking for a light and easy-to-carry rifle chambered for a full-power rifle cartridge. This features their pictogram safety markings plus ambidextrous safety. ["comment_status"]=> ["post_type"]=> string(9) "rogue-sbr" string(0) "" I got myself a 16" POF Rogue just before the panic, and topped it with a MRAD Vortex Razor LHT 3-15x42, then added a Dictator. This is due to a combination of things including the muzzle brake, how the gas system is set up, lightweight reciprocating parts and the action spring. ["post_content"]=> In addition Blacks Hills Ammunition also launched a 6mm ARC round and a 6.5 PRC. Taking my time, I went seven out of 10. string(3) "raw" string(19) "2022-12-28 22:24:32" int(0) As far as furniture is concerned, the Rogue ships with a free-floating aluminum handguard with a Picatinny rail along its entire top face and the final 2" of its 6-oclock surface. ["menu_order"]=> If you are worried about the recoil come shoot my 6lb Tikka T3 lite in 300 win. The upper assembly with a free-floating monolithic handguard slides on and interfaces. ["post_password"]=> I have now put plenty of rounds through the Rogue with ZERO issues. 23011 North 16th Lane, Phoenix, AZ 85027-1331. Got rid of the 12.7 cause I really didn't like the blast. ["menu_order"]=> The buffer detent now doubles as a lock that inhibits the buffer tube from rotating and becoming loose under adverse conditions. I am thinking of zeroing to 135 grain winchester hollow points if it all proves compatible. There have been a number qc and reliability problems with the Rouge. ["post_name"]=> So, this design isnt an AR-10, nor is it a small frame design like the Colt 901 which others copied years later. Affixing the barrel to the upper is an oversize barrel nut designed to act as a heat sink, dissipating heat far more efficiently than the standard mil-spec part. The most common complaints I hear voiced against AR-10-type rifles is, they are too big and too heavy. The receiver sets are large, the bolt carrier is huge and heavy and once you add a sling, loaded magazine and an optical sight the end result is a rifle physically larger and heavier than most desire for carrying in the field, especially while hunting. ["post_status"]=> Tuning the gas system can reduce felt recoil and make for a smoother operating rifle. Sep 6, 2022. ["post_mime_type"]=> ["post_excerpt"]=> Using the highly acclaimed Revolution design, the Rogue is the same size as the AR-15, yet chambered in the .308 battle rifle cartridge. POF-USAs Revolution really caught my attention, but I refrained from buying one. int(128149) Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. 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