Looking at the group as a whole, we found that the Burner produced swing speeds that were on average 2.39 MPH faster than the Heated clone. From what I understand, Bang Golf doesnt make clones nor knock-offs. Or youre the website that would love to write an article like this, but worry about the repercussions you might feel from an OEM advertiser. He was trained by Ralph Malby who started Golfworks. I play the Pursuit cavity back forged too. WebLet Hireko custom assemble your golf club to your exact specifications. My guess is that you have predetermined that a clone has to be an inferior product? I dont play clones because I cant afford the name brands. This doesnt count the shafts, grips and balls Ive gone through. Ive been eyeing the Dynacrafts, and drooling over the KZGs. As a mechanic, Ive been building my own clubs for the past 26 years, and yes I have quite an inventory. I might be having a slight case of buyers remorse but Ill get over it since both sets are fine clubs. Complete junk notwithstanding its all about your swing. It appears that you are debating the way he phrased the sentence. Display as a link instead, Its unfortunate that it is that way- but these clones/component brands do offer some that may not otherwise get the pleasure of playing such a great game a chance to do so. Its almost laughable to make those type of statements! A different animal than what the test was. Asfar as the lower end of components go, the only ones that really deserve the bad rap are the "clones". If you cant afford the latest and greatest, do some research and find something that will work for you at a price you can afford. Does anyone have any experience with any of the clubs, components, or company found at Hireko golf? They may have similar names Turner T7, Gallery, and so on. A few reputable clone companies online get their product made at the same foundry that a few large name brand companies get their gear made. Always has been and always will be. No wonder the golfing consumer doesnt take the component head biz seriously.when I read this type of stuff..I am bewildered. Of course, this is my individual experience. Within minutes a graphics designer at Yarn-Way had downloaded the logo from the TaylorMade shaft onto a computer screen and was making minor design and color alterations to it. GOOGLE Counterfeit Golf Clubs and take a look at how rampant it is. While I remember the ACER brand back in the mid 90's, I think Hireko started early 2000's (could be off here). Whether the result is illegal can be established only in court, on a case-by-case basis; in other words, the aggrieved company has to sue. I recently played golf without my set while visiting my brother. WebThis Meant grips, shaft, length and even tweaking the head itself. Almost every golfer has an opinion about the topic when askedso we felt it would make for a great labs article. Any test involving equipment using humans seems flawed the particants had to realize which club was being used and to completely eliminate that mental factor had to be impossible. This topic has been pretty taboo and heated for many reasons. then youll really be happy, and love your set..and it will be right. The altered logo would be applied to the graphite shafts Yarn-Way was making for Lious Integra line. WebThe Orlimar Intercept Single Length irons are all about developing consistency. Can you point me in the right direction? By far the best feeling head/shaft combo Ive ever had. It is just possible that some of the better OEMs make slightly better clubs, but the question is, as put in the article, whether for the individual this makes the OEM club worth the very substantial difference in price. https://www.hirekogolf.com/golf-components/clubheads/golf-irons/pinhawk-vertex-dual-length-iron-clubhead.html. Introduce Yourself/ WIYB (What's In Your Bag), Lessons, Drills, Mental Game, and Fitness Tips. If a manufacturer doubled his price on his highest priced clubs (lets call them X) making no other change except price (lets call the inflated priced clubs Y) and taged the Y clubs ultra sales would probably increase for both clubs, some wanting the very best because theyre priced higher, and some saying This club looks just as good and I can buy it for half the price of the other! The mental human factor. From tee to green and everything in-between, Hireko offers a wide array of golf clubs for players of all ages and abilities. all are factors in our normal tee shots. Has anyone ever stolen a customer of yours? No bubble but the Taylor colors. Some, like Frank Thomas (former USGA Tech. Bigger golf companies have more money to spend on the details, and while ultimately those details many not directly impact performance, I can tell you with certainty that given two clubs with similar performance attributes, the prettier one will always sell bettereven if its more expensive. Yup, found that article. You might also find it surprising that these clone designs are often approved by the name brand manufacturers before they are released. I can only hit a drive about 180 anymore and the Thriver gets me there. One of the guys on WRX built a set of XV Pros a while back, gave them a review. So I just bought a real Titleist driver. Wish they had a 58*, but it's just 52/56/60 in that product. Material used is cheaper. I like the test, but IMO for more accuracy the shafts need to be tested with the club. Counterfeit/Copy Golf Clubs: Are direct copies of OEM equipment. I will say that some companies make good in-house shafts. Keep them coming! Ive been on both ends of the spectrum: I bought the Sasquatch and 5000 when they were brand new, thinking Id get some sort of golfing nirvana with each new release. Specifically TM P770. Ive used their 302 model iron for years now and just recently compared their performance against several of the leading irons on the market. YOUR DIRECT QUOTE: GOLF MANUFACTURERS ANTI-COUNTERFEITING WORKING GROUP. I am only new to golf but got a set of clones from giga golf for a bargain price. What proved to be reality for our testers is that despite similar performance, thedifferencesin the subjective categories (in this particular case) are potentially enough to suggest that for some there is indeed $200 worth of improvement to be found in the Burner Tour. There are several hundred factories. . The grib and weight had to translate into a mental file. Some features of a driver, its head size, for instance, cannot be protected, but others can. On 5/20/2020 at 10:38 PM, aerospace_ray said: On 5/24/2020 at 9:08 AM, aerospace_ray said: On 5/24/2020 at 10:48 AM, Guest Delete said: ltby?" Clones have come a long way since the dark ages. So if the name-brand companies are fine with it, why would anyone, that decides to save money on purchasing similar product, be doing the wrong thing? Up closeummmnot so much. Ninety percent of amateur golfers play with the wrong equipment. Turn around time on regripping is usually 48 hours. Accuracy When it comes to accuracy the results are less cut and dry. Custom fitting can have a dramatic effect on your game. if you go with cheapest components, you can get a set really cheap, but why not buy a little better, and get a set worthy or even better than store sets for half the price.? Id love to see MGS compare irons. somebody earlier stated that no PGA professional would recomend to a student or anyone for that matter that they purchase copy/clone clubs. My son is custom club maker and said that his best selling iron head. Ping, TaylorMade, Callaway, Nike, etc. I submit that much is misguided and misinformed. Golfworks (Malby) and Wishon Golf (Tom Wishon) are two of the best. So, in the end, I would never buy a clone wood, but have no problem playing clone irons and my preference for those has become GigaGolf as Ive found their quality quite good. at this price, you can keep in trunk, travel without worrying to much,..the set the year before,i tried razer clone heads,got a little rust in grooves, and diamond tour took them back, and build me an upgraded set for small little extra,.! There are better clone models of this driver, although we decided to go with a mid-tier model. T. he loft gapping is slightly larger than traditional irons; this is to maintain a proper distance gap between clubs. I also have a few different sets of clubs and many extra clubs lying around the house. Secondly, please read Roy Nixs article from the AGCP Whos cloning who. Each had common components like shafts, grips, and clubmaking supplies but Golfworks had the best rework/refinishing stuff. If youre unsure about which used golf clubs are right for you, be sure to speak to one of our award-winning certified fitters, available in our stores and on the phone. GOLFSHOT APP and the MGS MEMBER VIRTUAL TOUR TRYOUT AND ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP DISCOUNT!! Personally I would love to see a test of these irons matched up against the real McCoy. Hmmmwe think maybe theres a chance it might.Lets go to the lab! Quality is really poor. all play a role not only what we think of a club design, but also how we perceive performance. Nearly all Club heads come from China. Paying full freight is worth it if the performance dictates. I have been hitting fitted Giga Golf TRX slot irons. In my opinion, like I said, I would go with OEM. Pab, if you have read the posts above you should come away confused (as I am) as to whether non OEM brands might be best. Who is going to take those remarks seriously? Why? The 2nd tier often makes some of the mid-size golf companies that a lot of you play but they also make some of the top components for companies like Golfsmith and Hireko and clones for companies like Diamondtour. in my opinion would have been more accurate. WebReshafing- We can reshaft most golf clubs with just about all major brands in graphite and steel shafts. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. Most golfers lump OEM Components in with clones even though these companies do their own R&D and have no intention of copying other companies. For the beginner or high HC golfer, I highly recommend a good set of clones. Hes a Cinderella story. There is current debate at the FTC, and US Patent Office level, on how closely a product can resemble another. In my experience, an average length hitter who hits very accurately will beat a long hitter with low accuracy, almost every time out. After school he would make cold calls for his father, Ren-Jei (R.J.) Liou, asking pro shops and discount stores if they wanted to order from his line of clubs. Just discovered Golf works and like their components as well. I have contacted Hireko customer service in the past and they were very nice/knowledgeable. Im 62 and have been playing golf since I was 7 and up until recently, like most people, played name brands forged clubs. I played a set of extremely cheap looking rental clubs. Thank you for the update. I have been researching single length clubs again and I may just have to order a few Pinhawks to build/test. Sent from my I have a set of irons by Affinity. First let me say that I am 88 years old and have been playing Hireko golf clubs, particularly their THRIVER for 8 years. Read further and you will find that the same factories involved are also producing Clone Clubs. I bought it and it was perfect. Can clone golf clubs perform as well as the higher priced name brand golf clubs?. The assertion made that many Clones are made in the same factories as OEM clubs is unsubstantiated and simply incorrect.. I cant say Ive chased the next new thing, only last year did I move the a 460 driver, of course I had to build three. I find much at MGS as interesting and informative. IMO, no they do not. I started out 4 years ago with a Pinemeadow clone of the Callaway Big Bertha ironsthen moved up to the actual Big Berthas and did feel and see some difference in overall quality.however I did have trouble with one of the Callaway stock graphite shafts which flaked and split on my 8 iron.my feeling is that it would be difficult for me to determine the difference in large part because at the time I was so new to golf.-and perhaps I was feeling more confident with an OEM in my bag(FYI: I now play Nike long irons and Cleveland scoring clubs and love them! There is no substitute for having a good swing and practicing the right stuff. I would like to see the stock shafts for each club tested. No need to point that out and recommend starting a new thread for those who insist on making that there lifes mission. . What I will say is that I glued together a few of their sets for buddies and lofts, lies and head weights are not spot on. WebGOLFDOM is THE Golfer's Store, complete with everything our customers need for on AND off the course. A former assistant groundskeeper about to become the Masters champion. 1. No one knows how sloppy things are manufactured unless you are right watching and know what you are watching for. They make their own designs. So not stolen lol. Are there bad name brand designsYES. I know of at least 2 touring pro who wanted to be sponsored by KZG and use their clubs. For those interested in carry only, the Burner was 7.11 yards longer on average, which we think is significant. Your tests compared apples to oranges, so your results didnt surprise me. There is a difference in this world with having the right to do something, and doing something with honor. It's a combination driver and fairwaywood. Powered by Invision Community. Clones what good are they? You will get more than your money's worth, in my opinion. I give them 5 stars. Love them. $249.99. 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