When Jahi McMath was declared brain-dead by the hospital, her family disagreed. Yet as Jahis body lay peacefully in its purple coffin, her familys legal fight waged on. Just make sure I don't fog the mirror when they light the fire. I hope I am clear in my wording. Her photo stirred deep . Who knows how much, if any, brain structure is left nearly 3 years later. Where's the feeding tube going to? At the beginning of the saga, everyone expressed disbelief that this would extend beyond a few days, because it only very rarely does for several reasons. An autopsy for example cannot help the dead person, but autopsies are done in the hope of helping the living. I have been continually horrified by this story since its beginning. So, if you took your hand to the top of her head and shook it back and forth would you hear liquid brain sloshing around? The entire situation is macabre and is only going to get worse. Does she menstruate like a normal 16 year old female? we are not liable for what they did. Maybe. This case saddens me. But there was a famous (on the internet) video of Teresa following a balloon with her eyes.Then comes the autopsy, and we learn that the part of the brain which processes vision was missing in Teresa. One more question please?I read a report from Children's Hospital about her stomach sloughing and that there were no sounds indicative of digestion or something like that. I have a question. She was indeed shrunken and obvious necrosis on her lip/mouth area. Agreed. Another Hitchhiker's fan!!! This was the question I asked Mrs. Bastard when she was pregnant with our first child and wanted EDIT: New and improved version, now with 83 of your favourite myths. 3) How does one climb out of a rock?4) Your blatant racism is utterly vile. And I forgot to acknowledge both your losses. "[13][54][55][56][58][59], In March 2015, McMath's family filed a malpractice lawsuit against Children's Hospital Oakland and Frederick Rosen, the surgeon who performed McMath's surgery. She was quiet and smiling all the time, said Vickie Viney, an administrative assistant at the school. Also thank you for the prayers, still grieving over my mom whom I lost to cancer less than a month ago. 1) What is to me if Nailah wants to keep her on somatic support? They're not making a dime off the situation. I suspect at that point Jahi's mother might try to invoke the brain death exemption since they have already established NJ residency. Her case challenges the very nature of existence. Why did they continue trying to start the heart, if it being stopped so long cause such severe brain damage? It was brownish in color and was seen on the bottom sheet where she was lying. Her stepfather also has at least one child (featured in a wedding day photo) and I can't imagine she's happy that her father has devoted this much time and attention to her dead stepsister.Or maybe she's good with it but I would be surprised if it were the case. Plus all the past litigation ..It's so very sad as said, that one deranged Mother who obviously needs desperately psych care, didn't and isn't receiving it, and thus places everyone around her in limbo because of it; all somehow thinking it's "God's will". As the Wired article states it will tell us more about the brain (and more about the tests). Im just curious how in photos she has not lost weight, you would think after all this time, her body would have shrunk but nope, Ziggy, back in Oct of 2015 a photo of Jahi was posted by a hairdresser. She went into cardiac arrest and was declared brain-dead, over objections from her mother and stepfather. Not that I'm going anywhere soon, but forget the jumper cables and let me go. Supporting her are McMath's stepfather Marvin Winkfield, left, and family attorney Christopher Dolan. However, I still don't understand one small aspect: if there has been no blood flow to the brain for three years, why isn't necrosis in the brain poisoning her body? PS Doc, I didn't get the name but using clues here about the person being 4 years old and on the vent for 20 years I was able to find the case study of the person. Geebo, I disagree. A video recording of an ice cube touched to the foot of Jahi McMath has been distributed. It's tragic, but I can see why her parents refuse to accept that Jahi's dead. Would you like email updates of new search results? A mourner hugs Marvin Winkfield, left, stepfather of Jahi McMath, following the girl's funeral on Friday, July 6, 2018, in Oakland, Calif. Pallbearers transport Jahi McMath's coffin from her funeral on Friday, July 6, 2018, in Oakland, Calif. 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If they appeared that way, they were just chapped. The latest photo and Jahi is so sad,they have just about blurred her whole face out. Federal government websites often end in .gov or .mil. They are milking the system! No more pain which helps me move forward. This guilt keeps and fuels her hope that she truly believes that her daughter is the one to defy all odds & wake up one day - be completely normal & live a happy life, being thankful her Mom (the Hero) kept fighting to keep her alive.. you know a miracle in its own making & that apartment becomes a future place of worship & pilgrimage..The people who surround them don't help see reality. Perhaps Jahi is temporarily dead for tax purposes?Zaphod Beeblebrox: Did you talk to the big noiseboy?Ford Prefect: Hotblack? If there's something that can be used again, take it and make someone healthy. However, aspirated clot and the ensuing airway disaster that that could cause, is a tragic, but more understandable scenario. You can see the photos here: http://kesselrunin12parsecs.tumblr.com/post/91275477091/mother-of-the-year-41017-i-have-been-out-of. Careers. How can the state of NJ still continue to pay for this child's care if she is brain dead? This is not a healthy situation for them to be in by any stretch of the imagination. I would also be curious if the family members are getting paid by the government to take care of Jahi. I have pulled some gross things from people's vocal cords during codes, but if you got clots past the cords it would be very difficult to get them out. He spent some hours with Jahi over a two day period back in December of 2014 but these two purported periods were said to have occurred in August and September of 2014. Furthermore, in these cases, the body is often in various states of sepsis which causes edema from third spacing which is augmented by aggressive fluid resuscitation. Thanks for your explanation. The ones who a suffering the most are Jahi's siblings. - or in other words, wants to turn them into a bizarre medical experiment. This is what really bothers me is that New Jersey taxpayers are footing this bill. The Nailah Nailah account? The face look eerie out of proportion. I also lost a child and I don't know that it would have brought me any comfort at all to watch her grow up, unconscious, in a hospital bed. I don't think there is anything that will stop Mrs. Winkfield from trying to get Jahi's death certificate overturned. I don't subscribe to all of the blogs would have been interesting to see because I know what we see on the FB page is not current nor accurate. thanks for askingCory. You just tune the body up with antibiotics and pressors, more steroids back to the nursing home you go and see you again in a couple of months. In severe cases the entire organ can die, but it is incredibly rare in the stomach due to its rich blood supply. Thanks. I believe mother truly believes Jahi is "still in there." Even if Jahi had been moved from California to Seattle, due north of Oakland, no one in California would say that she had gone "up north." Jahi has yet to undergo a complete brain death exam including an apnea test since being transferred. medicaid fraud anyone?I wonder, if she is claiming for medicaid, is she claiming for a brain damaged daughter or is she claiming for a dead daughter? "I agree with DocB that the cases aren't comparable to Jahi McMath but I did specifically ask Dr. Franklin about post mortem studies in PVS patients. They are asking the court to determine liability first. Yeah, I sort of spoke to him.Zaphod Beeblebrox: What did he say?Ford Prefect: Nothing much. Also, in the last paragraph of Dr. Schneider's testimony he had some interesting things to say about Dr. Alan Shewmon's thoughts regarding brain death. Hastings Cent Rep. 2018 Nov;48 Suppl 4:S74-S76. His was the expert opinion on which the family based their belief that Jahi was no longer brain dead.Alan Shewmon.one of the brain death experts had to say about Alan Shewmon. Jahi's face does look swollen.I also want to point out that it's not just Jahi's siblings who are likely being shunted to one side. It is a medical impossibility that J. McMath is moving in response to verbal commands. I am surprised that her blood deprived brain has not developed gangrene. PMC I don't know if that makes a legal difference. Truly Reconciling the Case of Jahi McMath. Pennsylvania Child Abuse Recognition and Reporting. Just my opinion. Now that we get some actual facts, instead of lay persons interpretations, it sounds as if she aspirated some blood - probably clots. If you search her name you will not find any links to any crowdfunding or donation portals. No. I'll be honest, this isn't much of an update. Hi. This will come up again. What the courts decide here is something completely different, and to a certain extent divorced from medicine.I'm sorry if I did not make that clear. Kind of like a coconut? I have seen people that weren't brain dead and there hands are all contracted, some in fetal position. Remember Jahi was right as the repeal vote was happening related to California tough malpractice protections. Living on a machine will not make me be me, and it will not fix regrets or bring comfort, if I die mine will not stop loving me, so forcing me to be alive so you mine can continue to love me, is not justification.. My family had to remove a very young uncle off life support, 23 years old.. Was shot execution style in a home burglary. Sadly, that young man has passed away. If the FB page was a conduit for donations, there'd be continuous updates -- and by that I mean posts about anything and everything, even if there are no new videos. [48], In March 2014, the Terri Schiavo Life and Hope Network awarded McMath's family an annual award. This led to a bioethical debate engendered by her family's rejection of the medicolegal findings of death in the case, and their efforts to maintain her body using mechanical ventilation and other measures. "anti-brain death quack Dr. Paul Byrne""quack"well that settles it. Yet they have posted the autopsy report on their website. I check the FB page from time to time and there are RARELY updates. I've been following this story because, as an ICU nurse, I'm always amazed at the dynamics of denial. Doctor Bastard,Can you please provide a medical explanation for that mountain of blankets they always have covering her? All videos related to her will pop up. I watched the video. The government involvement in that case was scary. That makes sense. Her case challenges the very nature of existence. 8600 Rockville Pike Jahi had a flow study done *2 weeks* after her anoxic event, which showed no blood flow to the brain. Lessons from the Jahi McMath Case. However, there has never been a case of a properly diagnosed brain dead person waking up. The doctors they are not God.. It can get quite warm in the summer especially when you are stuck in a 18 mile backup on our beloved NJ Turnpike. I honestly do want to know when the state going to stop this, are we looking at another 3 years from now the mom is still keeping Jahi on life support? We can only make judgements based on our current state of knowledge. The family claimed she had two "periods" roughly one month apart in 2014. [35] After the hospital and McMath's family engaged in settlement talks, an agreement was facilitated in which McMath could be released from Children's Hospital, with the ventilator and her intravenous fluid lines, to the custody of her mother, but the United States District Court for the Northern District of California denied the family's petition to require hospital staff to perform a tracheostomy and insert a feeding tube. 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If you can find the time I would love to hear your professional opinion. How does she manage to not look like the crypt keeper after all this time? @tania, A very minor point from California, where Jahi started. I always hear neuro experts say "Well,in brain death you can see this or you can see that." Something doesn't look right and especially after seeing the hairdresser's photo of a year ago. He already has a Wiki pagehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Warmbier#Medical_condition. She's pain free now and watching over her family. Although legally dead, she continues . You suggest that Jahi have an fMRI and Pet scan done to supplement the brain death exam. For the remainder of her life, expect to hear in one way or another (books or movies) how MomNails was oh so forced to "kill" i.e. Omari Sealey who is an Uncle to Jahi McMath, walks back to the hospital after reading a statement by the family to the news media in front of. In a pretrial conference on December 23, Judge Evelio Grillo appointed Paul Graham Fisher, the chief of Child Neurology at Stanford University School of Medicine, to provide an independent medical opinion regarding the declaration of brain death. The lawyer for the family of Jahi McMath said this week the 13-year-old girl's body had deteriorated badly since she was declared brain-dead at an Oakland hospital. If she can do that, she can move the body back to California and get Medical benefits there for care. Criteria and Tests for Diagnosing Brain Death Diagnostic tests can be evaluated in several ways. I don't understand how that could work and given the chances of a false positive couldn't that give desperate families even more of an incentive to continue futile care?https://www.wired.com/2009/09/fmrisalmon/, Complex question there and I had to read the Wired article. I also heard that the mother said she only gave her a popsicle, nothing more. The lining of the intestines were sloughing, likely due to decreased blood flow. I apologise, I didn't get your point. I had to do it a few times and the first time, I didn't accept it right away but this is getting ridiculous. [45] McMath's attorney, Christopher Dolan said, "There would have been no legal battle if Jahi had had her tonsils out in New Jersey, referring to a New Jersey state law allowing religious objection to a declaration of death on the basis of neurological criteria. "You are" meaning Mom Nails. If you post spam or advertisements, I will hunt you down and eliminate you.Comments may be moderated. Thank you. Jahi McMath Dies Four Years After Being Declared Brain-Dead The teen defied the medical definition of brain death, and her family's fight to spare her life has fueled other challenges to this. Refusing to accept the doctors determination that Jahi was dead, Nailah and Marvin Winkfield flew Jahi to New Jersey the only state that defers to a familys religious beliefs when determining whether a person has died and kept her on life support for years. What the mom is doing is not only disgusting but it's dishonorable to her daughter who passed. keep in mind grandma said, on TV that she had taken it upon herself to suction the surgery site, and then handed off the wand for jahi to do her own suction, all of her own accord. The defendants in the lawsuit wanted those examinations to happen by the end of last April but the family is trying to delay that as long as possible. [26], On January 5, 2014, Children's Hospital released McMath to the Alameda County coroner. But there are cases of prolonged somatic support, and no one claims otherwise.There are many cases of comatose people waking up, and some have reported memories of their comas to varying degrees. morbid curiosity is normal for us.
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